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the republicans to come to their senses about the debt ceiling. and in the rewrite tonight, the idiotic things republicans are saying about guns, and why president reagan and president george w. bush would disagree with them. [ male announcer ] you are a business pro. omnipotent of opportunity. you know how to mix business... with business. and you...rent from national. because only national lets you choose any car in the aisle. and go. you can even take a full-size or above. and still pay the mid-size price. i could get used to this. [ male announcer ] yes, you could business pro. yes, you could. go national. go like a pro. >>> a quick update, joy reid and karen finney apparently didn't change the minds of the nra in the first segment, the ad regarding president obama has not been taken down. the ad has been making the website crash and sometimes slow tonight. but the most ugly and stupidest ad the nra has ever done is still there. >>> and ed markey winning the senate seat that will be vacated by john kerry became more inevitable, when one of the democrats said he would stay right where he is
the republicans should not wage battle on this terrain. susan collins believes the debt ceiling must be raised. we have seen how the debt ceiling can be raised without a battle. the first read today, this is an interesting development that perhaps will expedite this debt ceiling battle. >> we have a lot more twists and turns to come in the battle. one of the best predictors of whether one side will win or lose and how unify and united that side is. we are seeing fizzures among republicans and conservative writers as well as gop interest groups who are saying we shouldn't pick a fight when it comes to the debt ceiling. maybe it's better to pick a fight over shutting the government down rather than risking the default of the government when it comes to raising the debt ceiling. this is a significant development. it shows a lot of people thought we were looking ahead to the debt ceiling and the republicans had a lot more leverage. that can call it into question. >> that are sounds like the president describes. i use the word lurching to the next crisis ahead. it was the fiscal cliff and then it was r
sandy victims. up next, scare tactics trying to back republicans into going along with the debt ceiling increase. we will take up the impact in tonight's "chalk talk." and the administration looking to enact sweeping immigration reforms in a mass of new laws. we will talk to our guest coming up next. >> this year 3000 people officemax has exactly the ink... your business needs... at prices that keep you...out of the red. this week get a bonus $15 itunes gift card with any qualifying $75 ink purchase. find thousands of big deals now... at officemax. that your mouth is under attack, from fd particles and bacteria. try fixodent. it helps create a food seal defense for a clean mouth and kills bacteria for fresh breath. ♪ fixodent, and forget it. >> america cannot afford another debate with this congress about whether they should pay the bells they have wracked up. if congressional republicans refuse to pay america's bills on time, social security checks and velveterans benefits checks wile delayed. lou: social security and veteran's benefits? that is the president resorta to spare tactics
to call it over the debt ceiling. republicans say they are not going to vote to increase the debt ceiling even though they did so 19 times with no strings attached under george w. bush. they won't do so again this year unless they get massive cuts in social security and medicare. why should we be having this fight after all? shouldn't we just pay our bills as the president says? >> you know, i just wonder if these individuals also when their credit card bill arrives say, no. not going to pay it. >> they might. >> i am not going to pay it. we are spending too much money. so i am just not going to pay my bill. really? it's it's like a non-secquitor. these have been racked up by congress. they have proposed those expenditure. now the bills are due. to put any strings attached to it is kind of nuts. >> . >> what's the way out of it? >> there are six numbers of congress including myself today introducing a piece of legislation to just scrap the idea of the debt ceiling which no other country in the world has. it's an unnecessary encumbrance that the ide
: the new republicans in congress were threatening to vote against raising the debt ceiling. if congress didn't act by august 2, the federal government would be unable to pay its bills. >> in 2010, when all these republicans were running for congress, many of them avowed tea partiers and the rest of them riding the tea party wave, the subject of the impending debt ceiling came up frequently and virtually all of them campaigned saying... pledging not to raise the debt ceiling. >> narrator: early on, republican freshmen attended orientation sessions. republican strategist frank luntz ran one of them. >> and i asked the question, how many of you are going to vote for the debt ceiling? and only three or four of them raised their hands. and i said, if you vote for the debt ceiling, the people who put you in office are going to knock you out. >> if you vote for the debt ceiling, you're voting for your own death certificate, political death certificate. >> narrator: for his part, the president decided to try something new: personal politics. he figured he could connect to the republican leader,
republicans are relishing the debt ceiling does indeed have to be raised. joining us now, ihs chief economist and we appreciate you being here. is this fight we are about to have necessary, and what is going to happen to whether it is the global market, 401(k), what will happen to all of us if congress passes this fight? >> this is not a necessary fight. this situation created by congress which sent the debt ceiling from years ago in hopes it would impose some discipline but of course it hasn't because it has been raised and raised and raised and now it is a source of a contentious debate that is still raised, and so it is unnecessary. what we need to do in the u.s. is for the two sides to get together to come up with a comprehensive debt and deficit reduction plan. the debt ceiling and all around it doesn't really solve the problem. it is a waste of time. adam: let me interrupt you because we have had this debt ceiling essentially part of our discussion for almost 100 years, going back to 1917 with the issue of liberty bonds. now today we talk about the debt ceiling and we talk about its imp
for the debt ceiling proposal. that was from the last time the house republicans threatened the country with defaulting on our debt back in 2011. dennis ross, you probably should have calibrated your place in line a little better. throw a democrat in there ahead of you when you realize that's what you're going to get. get there in time for the repeal prohibition amendment next time. that's more fun. if you have found yourself at home constitutionally -- forgive me, constitutionally incapable of getting excited over having another fight about the debt ceiling this year, if this isn't exciting because it just feels like groundhog day to you, oh my god, i've got reckless brinksmanship fatigue, it is true that it's hard to get excited over something we have done before. it is 2013 now. remember when it happened it was a total disaster. even if you just ignore the political consequences, if you just look at the economic impact, it was a self-imposed economic disaster caused by washington refusing to do something that it needs to do and that it has done dozens of times before. republicans jus
miles on every purchase, every day! what's in your wallet? a showdown over the debt ceiling with republicans using the threat of default to try and leverage spending cuts from the white house. representative peter welch is democrat from vermont and he has been calling for the president to envoc the 14th amendment to circumvent congress and protect the economy. congressman, welcome. good to have you with us. before we turn to the debt ceiling, i would like your reactions to the president's proposals to curb gun violence and whether you think those legislative proposals that he made have a chance of getting through either house of congress or both. >> i do. i mean, all of us are just astonished and appalled at what happened in newtown and the idea that a 6-year-old child would have 11 high capacity bullet designed by the military for combat pumped into that little child is really changing the discussion here. so i think the focus on practical things like high capacity magazines, like background checks that work, like trying to come up with appropriate assault weapon ban, these
that are raising alarms from demanding republicans immediately raise the debt ceiling and lori about that pesky out of cotrol spending later to considering as many 19 different gun-control measures that he could in force as he gears up for his comprehensive plan tomorrow. our president seems to think of himself like a king and said that our elected officials. joining me now, former adviser to president george w. bush. senior fellow at the cato institute. i will start with you. here is the president back in 2006 on the idea of raising the debt limit. he said, the fact that we are here today to debate raising america's debt limit is a sign of our leaders failing in the u.s.overnment cannot pay its own bills and i intend to oppose the effort to increase the debt limit to and here he is begging for the debt limit to be raised now hat he is president. >> i think that he was right several years ago when he talked about the size of fiscal irresponsibility, but all of a sudden he seems to think it is just a wonderful, peachy keen idea. gerri: irresponsible thing to do . brad, to you. i am -- i went back an
of the show. >> coming up on "the willis report", republicans split on their debt ceiling stances? we have against the weight on what is really going on. and earnings season is in full swing. our expert is here to share the financial sea of hot on right now. and in hard times, what industry has thrived? even the wealthy are flocking in. the star of on stars, richardson is here to discuss how you can cash in. we are on the case next on "the willis report." ♪ [ male announcer ] how do you turn an entrepreneur's dream... ♪ into a scooter that talks to the cloud? ♪ or turn 30-million artifacts... ♪ into a high-tech masterpiece? ♪ whatever your business challenge, dell has the technology and services to help you solve it. whatever your business challenge, we asked total strangers to watch it for us. thank you so much. i appreciate it. i'll be right back. they didn't take a dime. how much in fees does your bank take to watch your money? if your bank takes more money than a stranger, you need an ally. ally bank. your money needs an ally. gerri: there is definitely a debt ceiling looming
the debt ceiling what leverage do republicans have? and the last chance to derail the term. i think i know what happens, the same thing that has happened always when we have had so many break outs they are left behind by the wall of worry. ask yourself, do you think that this many analysts could be right? do you think that these companies are going to prove to be brilliant exit prices? no. i bet that this is one of those moments where the world economies are going to be better. i say that because it is the same behavior i've seen over and over and over again. down days are days to buy, not sell. in order to get into this bull market, here is the bottom line, i think this market is simply taking a snooze after a big bull run, but wakes itself up perhaps with my alarm clock and if history serves me right, when stocks awaken they go higher not lower and it is turned out that their evaluations ended up being catalysts galore. bob in florida, bob. >> it is great to talk to you. south florida by way of teaneck, new jersey. i'm calling about krispy kreme donuts. i owned this stock years ago. i so
've seen the near future in how the republicans end up agreeing to a debt ceiling raise without a battle. government funding and government shutdown, different story. >>> let's turn back to the big story of the day. and that is the president's push on guns and the coming fight with both congress and the nra. in addition to calling on congress to pass gun control legislation, the president will propose a set of executive actions. nbc's justice correspondent pete williams is here to help explain some of those executive actions. a big one that we know he's going to call for is this idea, pete, of basically ordering the justice department to prosecute people that fail background checks. explain why that hasn't been done before, and how it can be done. >> sure, first of all. the federal law makes it a crime for somebody to falsify, knowingly falsify information to their background checks, saying that they're qualified to have a gun when they're not. presumably, most people know when they've been dishonorably discharged from the military, whether they have the felony conviction, whether they h
of the debt ceiling debate, my friends. yes, unfortunately, if you prefer your doomsday scenarios few and far between then washington, d.c. is no place for you. the newest wound that republicans in congress are considering inflicting upon ourselves and our fragile economy is defaulting on our financial obligations by refusing to raise the debt ceiling, something they agreed to rather effortlessly 25 times under george w. bush and ronald reagan. this would be the decision that would be only as disastrous as it is profoundly unnecessary. because the truth is, as president obama noted yesterday the u.s. economy's actually poised for a good year if only congress can get out of the way. i kind of paraphrased that last part. now that we know we're not going to be minting a trillion dollar coin, we need something different. a bill that would repeal the debt ceiling altogether. it is an idea supported publicly by alan greenspan and times man of the year last year, ben bernanke. it is an idea that could prevent lawmakers from lurching our country from one crisis to the next just to ring out some short
strategy wonderful the debt ceiling is to split fracture and therefore neuter republicans in the house because that is all that stands between him and total dominance of washington in his second term. he wants a return to 2009-2010 when he had control of both houses he had a super majority in the senate. huge majority in the house. and revolutionized healthcare and passed the biggest spending bill the stimulus in galactic history. that's what he wants. the only way to do it is to do what he is doing and it already worked with the fiscal cliff fractured the republicans. who was in charge of the last vote? nancy pelosi, the democrats. she got 9 out of 10 to go with her. a few republicans. she controlled the agenda. that's his strategy. >> bill: it's working. and i don't know whether it's going to work down the road but he has two huge things going for him. the media behind him, all right. so think are going to support what he does generally speaking on the networks news level in the major urban newspapers and wire services like the associated press. he has got all of that favorable push.
know, i was thinking about it in a way that republicans threatening to use the debt ceiling relays everything and puts the perspective, i think, in the wrong place. i think it's a serious mistake for them to even think about that, and we were talking earlier about the articles this morning saying how dangerous it is to use the debt ceiling to essentially put the full faith and credit of this country in the real jeopardy so i am very concerned about the consequences from doing that or even threatening to do it immediately and, also, it really shifts the focus and instead of it being on the debt ceiling, including tax reform. >> host: okay. so tax reform doesn't happen in 2013. >> guest: it may not happen. >> host: may not happen. what's the impact of that? what's the implication? >> guest: i said all along it's important for us to look beyond the label tax reform. for example, we are urged early on tax reform to bring the rates down to 25% individual and corporate. without indicating how in the world you would do that, and some said, well, we can use the exemptions in the deductions
. there has been hip pock chris at this on all sides on this. republicans have voted against the debt ceiling increase. democrat president. dome kratz like the president voted against raising debt limit when he was in the senate and there was republican president. there is hypocrisy all over the place. what was particularly bothersome from the president we didn't hear from him any suggestion of where he wants us to go to solve the long-term problem. i go back to what we all understand is the cause of the problem here and that is entitlements and we need structural reform. melissa: last word real quick, we have to go. >> we'll never get to entitlement reform with a gun to your head that is what is happening with the debt ceiling. >> we didn't get to it fore then. melissa: great discussion. next on "money", a stunning number of americans are using their 401(k)s to pay for every day expenses. a top financial planner said you couldn't make a worse decision. he is here to explain. we also asked for some other options if you're in this situation. >>> plus, dand for gas is falling to lows not seen i
of the problems with this effort by the republicans to escape the reality, we cannot use the debt ceiling as a weapon. as i said yesterday, it's not a weapon against the president. it is really against the people of this country, because the consequences of a default would ripple throughout the economy of. this of i just saw an article yesterday that said the people are now drawing on their retirement funds, the middle class of this country. so we now want to have a debt ceiling threat that would cause further erosion in the stock market, that would essentially make things begin to go haywire? i guess the republicans are going to be sinking this weekend how to proceed. i think they need to proceed with sensibility and common sense instead of an effort to be so extreme that you threaten the economy of the country. host: house republicans leaving for a retreat tomorrow to discuss - guest: they should retreat from the idea of using the debt ceiling. host: the referenced the wall street journal this morning. -- you referenced. many republicans see a debt limit showdown as risky. pat toomey sa
republicans are using the debt ceiling deadline as a means of blackmail, threatening the nation's financial stability. >> the debt limit is an unnecessary legislative hurdle that has proven to be both an ineffective means of controlling deficits, and a danger to this country's standing in the world financial markets. >> we must not permit and artificial debt ceiling to throw the country into default and our economy into chaos and depression, which is exactly what the republicans are threatening to do. jon: some conservative groups warn that removing the limit is a recipe for economic disaster, as we're seeing now in greece. the leaders of heritage action family research council and club for growth writing in an op ed they want congress to balance the budget within ten years and keep it balanced. quote, no american should have to tell an eight-year-old child that we cannot get our nation's house in order by the time she goes to college. there are many ways to get to a d republicans haved both an obligation to explain what path they will choose. jonah goldberg is editor at large for national
hard fall on both gun control and the debt ceiling. the president simply will not offer any compromise on federal spending that might get a debt deal done. on guns as we just heard, is he threatening executive orders. so i think the president simply wants to damage the republicans rather than solve complicated problems, at least at this juncture. joining us from washington with his take fox news political analyst charles krauthammer. i see it as a chess game. rather than both parties working together to get some gun legislation that might help folks control criminals in that area and rather than getting the debt ceiling done with some, you know, meaningful cuts in spending, the president says, you know, i'm not even going to bother. i want to alienate the republicans so that people will be angry with them. am i wrong? he has been doing that since elections day, i wrote a column ever since september pointing out entire strategy for the fiscal cliff was to split the republicans. it had nothing to do his offers had nothing to do with solving the fiscal issue or solving the debt. he showed
told me yesterday he didn't think the republicans should use the debt ceiling as leverage to cut spending. >> i think that would be a grave mistake. i don't think that would solve anything. i know they are going to try it, and how far you go with that game of chicken i have no idea. >> and more and more republicans are agreeing with him, but utah governor gary herbert, he's not one of them. find out why he's willing to play that game of chicken straight ahead. later on, how badly will the debt ceiling fight end up hurting the economy? ahead, a member of one of the largest private equity firms will be here with his outlook. stay with us. me it...i've hooke. but there's one... one that's always eluded me. thought i had it in the blizzard of '93. ha! never even came close. sometimes, i actually think it's mocking me. [ engine revs ] what?! quattro!!!!! ♪ nothing. are you stealing our daughter's school supplies and taking them to work? no, i was just looking for my stapler and my... this thing. i save money by using fedex ground and buy my own supplies. that's a great idea. i'm goi
action. >> republicans argue washington has linked several increase in the debt ceiling to deficit reduction deals. it serves as reminder how much the government has borrowed. senate minority leader mitch mcconnell writes, over the past three decades in fact u.s. presidents and lawmakers from both parties routinely used the debt limit debate to reform government spending. washington democrats under pressure from their favored interest groups continue to adhere to an outdated ideology that says every penny of revenue washington ever got its hands on is sacrosanct. house republicans are enroute to williamsburg, virginia for their retreat. they will consider the options for the upcoming debt ceiling fight. short term increase with modest spending cuts to a 4-year increase including overhaul of the tax code and entitlement programs. back to you. tracy: sound ambitious. rich edson, glad you could stick around and talk to us. we're 29 days away from the debt ceiling d-day. ashley: we are. tracy: will be valentine's day actually. ashley: not pretty though. as you just said, tracy, less th
a mistake by trying to link the debt ceiling to a deal on spending cuts. >> in the end, it's a threat they can't sustain. no one is going to default. no one is going to allow united states to not pay its bills. no one is going to accept the economic costs. it rallies the entire business community to the president's side. i don't think we should pick fights where we're in a position that we can't, in fact, in the end enforce our will. because we have no evidence of president obama's going to compromise. i think the president is deliberately seeking confrontation. he's going out of his way to bully the house republicans. >> and allen simpson, the co-founder of the campaign to fix the debt, also warning against bargaining over the debt ceiling. >> do you believe the gop should be using the debt ceiling as a leverage point to get the president to agree to the cuts? >> i think that would be a grave mistake. i don't think that would solve anything. i know they're going to try it. how far we'll go, i have no idea. if you're a real conservative, really honest conservative without hypocrisy, y
say to the republican party, you should not dabble with the debt ceiling. it is something that would have such serious consequences, and i don't want to essentially see if i can find ways around it. those ways are very problematical. essentially what we have tos ary problematical. essentially what we have to do is face up to the need to address sequestration and then move on. i don't want to be used as a weapon the debt ceiling. because it is not a weapon against me. it is a weapon against the full faith and credit of the united states and therefore, it is a weapon against the citizens of this economy and the global economy. and i think we need to be straight up and say that essentially what i will do is look for ways around it. the republican caucus has said from the beginning and dramatically change since i joined the ways and means committee. the republican party really has to decide just how much it's going to gamble with the economy of the united states. i think that would be a dangerous scandal and i think the president has stressed that we have sensed it out. so i'm with him o
but to, essentially, say to the republican party you should not dabble with the debt ceiling. that it's something that would have such serious consequences. and i don't want to essentially see if i can find ways around it. those ways are very problematical. and essentially, what we have to do is to face up to the need to address the she sequester -- sequester and then move on. and i don't want you to use as a weapon the debt ceiling because it's not a weapon against me, it's a weapon against the full faith and credit of the u.s. and, therefore, it's essentially a weapon against the citizens of this country, our economy and the global economy. and i think he needed to be straight up and not say that, essentially, what i'll do is look for ways around it. the republican caucus has, as i said at the beginning, so dramatically changed from when i joined ways and means which, by the way, has jurisdiction over the debt ceiling. and the republican party really has to decide how much it's willing to gamble with the economy of the united states. i think that would be a dangerous gamble, and i t
away. committee reports that many republicans scoff at the idea of a debt ceiling disaster. and it reads, let me read this to you, to these conservatives, hitting the debt ceiling is no armageddon and the idea of default is just a scare tactic. and they claim not to be frightened. i mean, we could have different opinions, but we can't have different facts. the debt ceiling is not there now? >> even if you don't want to listen to the president, like, listen to fitch and moodies and all the rating agencies who say this is not an economic issue. this is a political crisis that the united states is going through right now. and the thing about this, rev, is that this is a policy without a constituency. who backs this? who backs the idea to say basically, we're going to spend and spend and spend. and when the bills come up, we're not going to debate how we're going to spend in the future. if you want to have a larger conversation about spending, then we can have a larger conversation about spending. the moment we confuse them is when we start damaging the long term prospects of w
this, go ahead, make my day. i think you will see on gun control, debt ceiling, on everything down the road, public pressure from the president rather than wasting his time on events that the republicans don't even want to come to at the white house. >> yeah, howard, my experience in the senate in the '80s and '90s, was simply that, the big difference was opponents treated each other much more respectfully, they did oppose what they were trying to do. but they didn't try to use tricky tactics. they were very open, honest about it. they let each other know well ahead of time. they didn't try to block every maneuver in parliamentary terms. but on anything important, i never saw anybody get a vote out of friendship or socializing snow yeah, i think that is right, i think there were times back then when somebody was >>> does gop mean guns over people? let's play "hardball." ♪ >>> good evening. i'm chris matthews in washington. let me start tonight with this. this afternoon two men were wounded in yet another school shooting. this time in st. louis. today's shooting comes as the repub
to say this gently, stuart, help me. seriously, republicans were not elected to raise the debt ceiling and bring us into more debt and steal from our kids. where is the moral imperative that somebody, some party in in country is going to stand up and say enough is enough and we've got to live within our means and stop borrowing 46 cents of every dollar? where is that party? >> i think that they are there. they don't have a lot of-- a spokesperson yet. it's going to take some time. so, the thing is, this is the amazing thing. >> sean: capitulate in the meantime? >> i'm not saying that, but i think there is a responsibility for washington to say, okay, look, what are the things we can do within these parameters to make sure we don't wreck the economy. the fitch point, what obama is realizing, what fitch is saying could actually happen and smart preemptively to blame the republicans. >> sean: isn't it to be party, and balanced budget and greater freedom and to hell with the political consequences, take a stand? >> the republicans caved on the tax, yes, they did. they lost, they caved. >>
raising the debt ceiling. jerry nadler, member of congress. what has changed. why were you against, in favor of keeping debt ceiling restraint then and not so now. >> it because it was meaningless gesture frankly. when you had a republican president and republican congress minority demagogued and said we'll vote against it knowing perfectly well it would pass. no one ever seriously tried to have it not pass. and when ever, we were in the majority, we, democrats we passed it, even in the bush administration. because you knew it had to pass. now i don't, i'm not trying to make any excuses for, for political demagoguery in the past but the fact is, the fact is what is knew that republicans seem serious about not raising the debt ceiling and that can throw the economy into real depression. david: what is new the degree of spending in this country we haven't really had before. >> that is not true. david: hold on a second. you hear a lot of people talk about numbers in the future. the president says i'm for reducing spending by so much trillion dollars. let's look at the numbers that hav
that republicans are being obstructionists if they dare reject raising the debt ceiling but they didn't do it to a single democrat seven years ago including senator barack obama, then republicans are damned no matter what they do? >> it's part of the strategy of this administration on fiscal cliff, on all kinds of issues is to frighten people, frighten seniors. we need to reassure seniors with their truth, their social security and medicare is going to get paid unless the president is completely irresponsible. interest on our debt is going to get paid and our credit rating is likely to stay where it is if we cut spending rather than blow through another debt limit without making the hard decisions. >> neil: thank you very much. good. good to see you. >> neil: meanwhile, pick up the tab for national health care and reduce the debt? that is what democrats are proposing. adopting this so-called public option would actually cut the deficit. that had me thinking -- remember that one with chevy chase, and new shimmer and floor wax and it was dessert topping. i tell you, the same shim never, what
. the way the republicans are threatening to use the debt ceiling delays everything and it puts the perspective in the wrong place. i think it is a serious mistake for them to even think about that. you were talking earlier about the articles this morning saying how dangerous it is to use the debt ceiling to essentially put the full faith and credit of this country in real jeopardy. so i'm very concerned about the consequences of doing that or even threatening to do it immediately and, also, it really shifts the focus, instead of it being on the debt ceiling, it should be elsewhere, including tax reform. host: if tax reform does not happen in 2013 -- guest: it may not happen. host: what is the impact of that? what is the implication? guest: i have said all along it is important for us to look beyond the label "tax reform." for example, we urged early on tax reform bringing the rates down to 25% individual and corporate, they -- without indicating how in the world they would do that. some said, we can use the exemptions and deductions. we have already begun to use them, i hope, i
the relief for hurricane sandy victims. and house democrats want to get rid of the federal debt ceiling. they are pushing legislation to repeal the limit accusing the republicans of using it to blackmail the country. the treasury officials say they will run out of borrowing power as soon as mid-february. each day that passes brings us closer to massive automatic spending cuts to dramatically affect the u.s. military and defense industry. tonight, jonathan serrie reports on the damage done to north carolina. >> fact. miles from fort bragg, k-2 solutions train dog for police and military use. but the status of new defense contracts is unclear for this company that employs 274. >> in the past seven months we submitted eight proposals, two have been canceled and the other ones are in limbo for up to eight months. >> the problem is sequestration. they have not the uncertainty. >> this compounded the problem. right now, nobody is moving forward on any projects. it has created a stand-still. >> ceo of our row rora marketing -- aurora with facial recognition technology. >> it used to be working
. >> president obama did not vote for increasing the debt ceiling in 2006 and most republicans had no problem increasing it while bush was in office. those are the two facts you need to know about what everybody is saying about the debt ceiling. >> we have kayla here. thank you for this. rick, thank you for this. kayla is here listening to the jpmorgan media conference call and has details. >> i hate to break this up. i guess i have to. we're just getting off the media call, the new cfo for jpmorgan, marianne lake joins jamie dimon and the favorite topic the london while, jamie saying the impact of the whale pretty much played out at this point, we're at the end of the way with it. and his pay, the board had a quote tough job. you were talking about how the board posted record profits yet again. are you compensating him on the performance or whale and said the board had a tough job there. he went on to say they won't be disclosing a full end stopped number for what the loss were, 5.7 billion plus or fine nuss fine -- minus $7 million. housing last quarter was his famous line saying the housin
? you have leverage. you have talked about them already on this show. one of them is the debt ceiling fight. and the final one is the continuing resolution which is the stop gap thing because we haven't had a budget for four years. i agree with you. i think the president has the high ground there. he has a big weapon in his arsenal there. you have to give the president his way on that. >> if you pay the debt but you have to apportion out the money, the term for that is default. >> mark, my basic view is this is going to get done. but i'd like to move the last minute further out. if these guys need three to six months to do it up right and get a compromise. i'm willing to give them four to six months extra time. >> settling a debt ceiling issue is in the interest of the president and of our country. you have today fitch came out and threatened to decrease the credit rating and they are doing it in a way that areckless because you have outside observers looking at us and i want to highlight a point you made earlier which is the fact that all spending bills are in the constitution. we ar
on republicans when it comes to catch this list gun safety, cabinet posts, the debt ceiling. and it's looking like they're finding success. is this a preview of a winning second obama presidential term?? malika henderson is a political reporter for the "washington post," and glen thrush for politico and co-author of the ebook "end of the line." i nice you'd. i missed you. i've seen you on other shows, i've seen some sighting, but thank you for coming back. let's take a look at him now in his first press, the last one of the old year, the president warned republicans not to play politics when it comes to the debt ceiling. here is the president. >> but they will not collect a ransom in exchange for not crashing the american economy. the financial well-being of the american people is not leverage to be used. the full faith and credit of the united states of america is not a bargaining chip. >> and that's yesterday's last press conference of the first presidential term. this morning, newt gingrich of all people reacted by saying the president was bullying republicans. that's a long way from sayin
are looking to pick a fight on the debt ceiling. >> it's a threat they can't sustain. no one is going to default. no one is going to allow the united states to not pay it's bills. no one is going to accept the economic costs. it rallies the entire business community to the president's side. >> jennifer: he said he would rather have them fight on spending. there might be signs of progress on the senate side, too. alaska republican senator lisa murkowski told the fairbanks daily news miner that spending cuts should not be tied to the debt ceiling debate. then she added if you incur an obligation, you have an responsibility to pay for that. well, it's nice to finally hear someone from the party of personal responsibility stand up for the government's responsibility. joining me now for the latest on debt politics and much more is michelle bernard the president and korea of the person senator center for women politics and public policy. she's joining us from washington, d.c. and with me in the studio is the always insightful strategist donnie fowler. welcome inside "the war room"." >> glad
the main obstacle to resolving the debt ceiling crisis and moving on to the tensions within the republican conference and to some extent in the senate on the republican side. i said this was some caution. there has been in a sense a radical is nation of the republican conference in the house and i think that the results of that were shown in the difficulty the speaker had in the last few weeks. so, i am not saying there hasn't been any change, and we should perhaps discuss this and we'll debate it. in terms of mainstream america, the republican ranks have changed much more dramatically than half the democratic, texture of the democratic caucus. i say let the battle, i think i've been part of the mainstream within the democratic party ink i've been part of the mainstream within the democratic party and i think basically that means stream -- look, we are willing to sit down and talk about further budget cut. our insistence is that there has to be a revenue and a major tax ingredient. the american people basically agree with that, mark. the american people basically says there has to be balan
. >> the other man you saw in the clip was republican state sen dorr greg ball. his state is making it as difficult as possible to protect your family. >> now the ongoing debate on capitol hill over the debt ceiling. charles krauthammer is taking on the on thepresident's approach. the president isn't interested in fixing the problem but instead breaking the gop. >> the entire strategy for the fiscal cliff was to split the republica republicans. it hading in to do, his offers had nothing do with solving the fiscal he shall ue or solving the debt. he showed no interest in reducing the debt since the day he was elected in 2008. he appoints a commission two years later he ignore it is. he never talked about structural cuts or entitlements. he wants the entitlement states if you want a european entitlement state you need taxation. his strategy is to split, fracture and therefore neuter the republicans in the house. that is all that stands between him and total dominance in washington in his second term. he wants a return to 2009 and 2010 when he had control of both houses he had a super
to stop holding us hostage with the spending cuts to the debt ceiling. people are starting to feel a little bit more optimistic that might be less of an issue going forward. i still think it is a great focus people are afraid. we're pretty complacent and the volumes are really waiting to see what will happen in washington, i think. liz: charlie, you're looking at 13.25, again, another historic low for the volatility index. it is not telling me anything. what indicators to look at as a trader in the pit? >> i look at moving averages. take a look, the s&p has really held on to the moving average and a few breaks every time it has bounced off, you're doing pretty well. you look at what came out midsession today, and we're going sideways to a little higher. business activity is kind of sideways, you mentioned the housing market is starting to show some signs of life. if we can get the bankers doing quite well in terms of the stock, but in terms of generating the loans, we went from one end of the pendulum to free money and anybody who wants it to really constricting and making refinanc
the debt ceiling is not the armageddon it's been out to be and some say it's just an excuse for the president to keep on spending. explain their position. >> and it's not a small group of republicans. it might be the dominant thought process right now inside the house republican conference. they basically believe if you don't raise the debt limit, it does not necessarily mean default, that you can stack your payments, you can wait until enough tax revenue comes in to delay some payments, that you can shut down parts of the government that they don't consider essential. that just because we don't raise the debt limit, it would default. despite pressure from big business, despite pressure from the president, despite pressure from their own leadership, there's a lot of house republicans who just don't buy it. they don't believe what everybody else is saying about the effects of not raising the debt limit which to me says there's a better chance that there's the potential for default than people realize because house republicans have had it. they feel they have to make a stand,
'll treat you like this, go ahead, make my day. i think you will see on gun control, debt ceiling, on everything down the road, public pressure from the president rather than wasting his time on events that the republicans don't even want to come to at the white house. >> yeah, howard, my experience in the senate in the '80s and '90s, was simply that, the big difference was opponents treated each other much more respectfully, they did oppose what they were trying to do. but they didn't try to use tricky tactics. they were very open, honest about it. they let each other know well ahead of time. they didn't try to block every maneuver in parliamentary terms. but on anything important, i never saw anybody get a vote out of friendship or socializing snow >> good evening, americans, and welcome to "the ed show" from new york. what do you say we dive into crazy tonight. the call for civil war is getting louder. i think it's time for this country to have a real gut check. this is "the ed show." let's get to work. >> if he tried to override the second amendment in any way, i believe it wo
be -- and inability to raise the debt ceiling, 35 is an inability to do anything in terms of the parties agreeing, both republican and democratic party agreeing on some future course that still there will be an american economy that is growing and is healthy? >> it won't be growing as fast, but if you think about america in the context of europe and japan the willingness of internationals to continue to provide lots of lending support for the u.s. dollar and treasuries remains very high. >> rose: why is that? why do they continue to do that? obviously they believe it is a stle pla to be. >> we will be the world's largest energy producer and largest producer of calories, producer of calories, of food, the technology development, overwhelmingly based in the u.s. our demographics are pretty good, housing is picking up, we have a lot of money, this doesn't speak well for unemployment in the u.s. and doesn't speak well well for a lot of people doing the way they used to our their kids but in terms of looking at the united states, our risk wasn't called the u.s., the risk was called washington politic
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